A nice surprise this month at Experian. Score gains across the board with no change in account data on the 1st! Still with 3-of-4 reporting a balance at 3% (3.499 actual) agg util, $1,452 agg bal, and 9.422% ind util on Discover ($848) which is 9% for FICO scoring. I think the move to AAoA 2yr 6mo is what caused this. Here are the other aging values: AoOA: 3yr 9mo AoORA: 2yr 9mo AoOOA: 2yr 9mo AoY(R)A: 1yr 7mo AAoA: 2yr 6mo <-- Winner winner chicken dinner ||8|BC8|AU8|2|BC2|AU2|3 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| |EX|+2|+2|+3|+6|+7|+5|+2| |NOW|765|773|760| 761 |778|735|749|
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AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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3 years ago
Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:33 pm
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in6 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
A nice surprise this month at Experian. Score gains across the board with no change in account data on the 1st! Still with 3-of-4 reporting a balance at 3% (3.499 actual) agg util, $1,452 agg bal, and 9.422% ind util on Discover ($848) which is 9% for FICO scoring. I think the move to AAoA 2yr 6mo is what caused this. Here are the other aging values: AoOA: 3yr 9mo AoORA: 2yr 9mo AoOOA: 2yr 9mo AoY(R)A: 1yr 7mo AAoA: 2yr 6mo <-- Winner winner chicken dinner
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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3 years ago
Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:53 pm
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Level29 Last INQSaturday, March 26, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 5 months, 12 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in18 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 26th INQ 1yr onSunday, March 26, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 5 months, 12 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onTuesday, March 26, 2024 INQ 2yr reached5 months, 12 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Very nice! Maybe I missed it, did you get any points for your AoYA/AoYRA at 18 months?
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:04 pm
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in6 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Allzero wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:53 pm Very nice! Maybe I missed it, did you get any points for your AoYA/AoYRA at 18 months?
Nothing on the 7 EX CMS and EQ/TU8 scores, which is all I get each month now. Something may have happened with EQ5/TU4, but I would never see it.
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:15 pm
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Level30 Last INQWednesday, March 2, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in24 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on October 2nd INQ 1yr onThursday, March 2, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onSaturday, March 2, 2024 INQ 2yr reached6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
You should’ve experienced Scorecard change at 18 months on EX2. Any reason code shift?
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm
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Level27 Last INQMonday, May 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in15 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onTuesday, May 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onThursday, May 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago Goal24 months Goal DateThursday, May 23, 2024 Goal Achieved3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
I agree with your assessment regarding 2 years 6 months AAoA for the score gain, @Cassie . Are there any other thresholds you've found on your young file that have yielded AAoA gains? I was thinking perhaps 1 year 6 months? I'm a big believer that X years 6 months is a thing for quite a few different values.
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:27 am
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in6 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
BrutalBodyShots wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm I agree with your assessment regarding 2 years 6 months AAoA for the score gain, @Cassie . Are there any other thresholds you've found on your young file that have yielded AAoA gains? I was thinking perhaps 1 year 6 months? I'm a big believer that X years 6 months is a thing for quite a few different values.
I did a test at AAoA 1yr 6mo, keeping the account data the same month-to-month. EQ5: +8 TU4: +6 EX2: +10 (and EX3: +9) EX8s did not change. I had an EX8 score of 742 at that time. Today it's 765, so it took a whole year for +23pts.
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:38 am
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Level27 Last INQMonday, May 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in15 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onTuesday, May 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onThursday, May 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago Goal24 months Goal DateThursday, May 23, 2024 Goal Achieved3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
A little odd that EX8 didn't change at the same time, but all of those other increases do point to a threshold being reached, IMO.

Anyone ever test 3.5, 4.5 or 5.5?

I've only tested 6.5 and 7.5 personally.
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

8 of 28
3 years ago
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:51 pm
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in6 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
BrutalBodyShots wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:38 am A little odd that EX8 didn't change at the same time, but all of those other increases do point to a threshold being reached, IMO. Anyone ever test 3.5, 4.5 or 5.5? I've only tested 6.5 and 7.5 personally.
I posted this on MF, and I need to move it into the Primer: https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Unders ... ue#M189306 Basic version (since I can't cut and paste HTML here, which I want to fix!): 12 months / 1yr 0mo (3 EX 9 scores up 8-10 points, +4 on TU 8, my report here) 18 months / 1yr 6mo (Confirmed twice by me, really good on all mortgage scores, LINK ) 24 months / 2yr 0mo (CassieCard, LINK ) 30 months / 2yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 48 months / 4yr 0mo ( EX 8 +27 points, ChemE_Bear, LINK ) 54 months / 4yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 60 months / 5yr 0mo 66 months / 5yr 6mo 72 months / 6yr 0mo (Confirmed by Birdman7, LINK ) 78 months / 6yr 6mo (Confirmed by BrutalBodyShots) 84 months / 7yr 0mo (Confirmed by K-in-Boston, LINK ) 90 months / 7yr 6mo
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:41 pm
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The 43 EX8 points I received yesterday on hitting 3.5 yr AAoA could not have all had been from AoORA hitting 2 years and my loan going to 9.4%. I do wish I could isolate that better though. I will check my old reports. I know I crossed a few AAoA marks while dirty.
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10 of 28
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:35 pm
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Level30 Last INQWednesday, March 2, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in24 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on October 2nd INQ 1yr onThursday, March 2, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onSaturday, March 2, 2024 INQ 2yr reached6 months, 5 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
DustinD wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:41 pm The 43 EX8 points I received yesterday on hitting 3.5 yr AAoA could not have all had been from AoORA hitting 2 years and my loan going to 9.4%. I do wish I could isolate that better though. I will check my old reports. I know I crossed a few AAoA marks while dirty.
@DustinD The high end on the loan utilization dropping under 10% was established to be 35 points by @Saeren , so it is possible and AoORA is highly underestimated. I do not doubt that it could be from those two metrics alone, although I’m not discounting the possibility of something else being conflated with it.
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:36 pm
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Cassie wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:51 pm
BrutalBodyShots wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:38 am A little odd that EX8 didn't change at the same time, but all of those other increases do point to a threshold being reached, IMO. Anyone ever test 3.5, 4.5 or 5.5? I've only tested 6.5 and 7.5 personally.
I posted this on MF, and I need to move it into the Primer: https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Unders ... ue#M189306 Basic version (since I can't cut and paste HTML here, which I want to fix!): 12 months / 1yr 0mo (3 EX 9 scores up 8-10 points, +4 on TU 8, my report here) 18 months / 1yr 6mo (Confirmed twice by me, really good on all mortgage scores, LINK ) 24 months / 2yr 0mo (CassieCard, LINK ) 30 months / 2yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 48 months / 4yr 0mo ( EX 8 +27 points, ChemE_Bear, LINK ) 54 months / 4yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 60 months / 5yr 0mo 66 months / 5yr 6mo 72 months / 6yr 0mo (Confirmed by Birdman7, LINK ) 78 months / 6yr 6mo (Confirmed by BrutalBodyShots) 84 months / 7yr 0mo (Confirmed by K-in-Boston, LINK ) 90 months / 7yr 6mo
@Cassie we need a way to bookmark things so I can bookmark this post so that I know to add it to the primer for instance, or does this already exist and I’m just ignorant to it?
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:32 pm
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in6 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Birdman wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:36 pm @Cassie we need a way to bookmark things so I can bookmark this post so that I know to add it to the primer for instance, or does this already exist and I’m just ignorant to it?
The topic subject above each post is a standard link. If you tap/click there you can add that individual post link as a bookmark in your browser. The topic itself (whole thread from the top) can be bookmarked using the dropdown next to 'Post Reply' at the top or bottom of the entire list of posts.
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13 of 28
3 years ago
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:58 pm
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Level27 Last INQMonday, May 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in15 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onTuesday, May 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onThursday, May 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago Goal24 months Goal DateThursday, May 23, 2024 Goal Achieved3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Cassie wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:51 pm I posted this on MF, and I need to move it into the Primer: https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Unders ... ue#M189306 Basic version (since I can't cut and paste HTML here, which I want to fix!): 12 months / 1yr 0mo (3 EX 9 scores up 8-10 points, +4 on TU 8, my report here) 18 months / 1yr 6mo (Confirmed twice by me, really good on all mortgage scores, LINK ) 24 months / 2yr 0mo (CassieCard, LINK ) 30 months / 2yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 48 months / 4yr 0mo ( EX 8 +27 points, ChemE_Bear, LINK ) 54 months / 4yr 6mo (Unconfirmed) 60 months / 5yr 0mo 66 months / 5yr 6mo 72 months / 6yr 0mo (Confirmed by Birdman7, LINK ) 78 months / 6yr 6mo (Confirmed by BrutalBodyShots) 84 months / 7yr 0mo (Confirmed by K-in-Boston, LINK ) 90 months / 7yr 6mo
I thought I confirmed something at 7 years 6 months, but I can't find it. The good news is that with the recent account additions to my file, I'm at around 7 years 3 months AAoA now (I've got to actually recalculate it exactly) so in a few months time I should be able to test that point again.
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:07 pm
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@BrutalBodyShots if you check the primer your threshold might be there with your name
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:23 pm
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Level27 Last INQMonday, May 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in15 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onTuesday, May 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onThursday, May 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago Goal24 months Goal DateThursday, May 23, 2024 Goal Achieved3 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Birdman wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:07 pm @BrutalBodyShots if you check the primer your threshold might be there with your name
I'm just seeing the 78 month one that Cassie referenced. All good though, I'll retest 90 months. Only thing I'm not sure about is if I was in a no new revolver scorecard (which currently I'm not of course) when I tested it the first time around. Doesn't really matter though, as a data point is a data point regardless.
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Re: AAoA 2yr 6mo threshold at Experian?

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3 years ago
Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:05 am
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Level28 Last INQSaturday, April 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 4 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes Next Level in15 days, 1 hour, and 57 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onSunday, April 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 4 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago INQ 2yr onTuesday, April 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached4 months, 15 days, 22 hours, and 3 minutes ago
Looks like I will hit 4 years AAoA in 2 months (maybe 3 depending on how our new mortgage plays out), so I can reconfirm that threshold.
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