Hey all. I just wanted to post something that seems noteworthy, although I'm a bit confused by it and may chalk it up to a fluke. For the first time ever, I'm seeing an 850 VS3 on EQ. Not only do I mean first time for me, but first time ever at all. I believe the highest I've ever seen a VS3 is 841 (may have been TT or someone back in the MF days) and I don't recall mine ever breaking 841. For the last few years my TU/EQ VS3 scores have been in the 837-839 range most of the time. I'm confused as to why I'm seeing the change on EQ and not also TU, as both in general have aligned almost perfectly over the years. This is one of the reasons I'm chalking it up to a fluke at this time. Anyone think it's worth looking into possible causes yet, or should I wait to see if it returns back to where it was previously before diving into it? What do you think Cassie ? Also, where can you get EX VS3 for free? I know there's a source that I've checked it on before, but I'm completely blanking on it at the moment. I just wanted to see if EX VS3 moved up like EQ VS3 did. I'd imagine not and that it would still match my TU VS3, but want to be sure.
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Hey all. I just wanted to post something that seems noteworthy, although I'm a bit confused by it and may chalk it up to a fluke. For the first time ever, I'm seeing an 850 VS3 on EQ. Not only do I mean first time for me, but first time ever at all. I believe the highest I've ever seen a VS3 is 841 (may have been TT or someone back in the MF days) and I don't recall mine ever breaking 841. For the last few years my TU/EQ VS3 scores have been in the 837-839 range most of the time. I'm confused as to why I'm seeing the change on EQ and not also TU, as both in general have aligned almost perfectly over the years. This is one of the reasons I'm chalking it up to a fluke at this time. Anyone think it's worth looking into possible causes yet, or should I wait to see if it returns back to where it was previously before diving into it? What do you think @Cassie ? Also, where can you get EX VS3 for free? I know there's a source that I've checked it on before, but I'm completely blanking on it at the moment. I just wanted to see if EX VS3 moved up like EQ VS3 did. I'd imagine not and that it would still match my TU VS3, but want to be sure. Image
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BrutalBodyShots wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:57 pm For the first time ever, I'm seeing an 850 VS3 on EQ. Not only do I mean first time for me, but first time ever at all. I believe the highest I've ever seen a VS3 is 841 (may have been TT or someone back in the MF days) and I don't recall mine ever breaking 841.
I remember a thread where either 839 or 841 was posited as the upper limit for EQ VS3, and no one ever showed up with something to counter that. Pretty interesting. EDIT: In our AAoA calculator, anything showing green in the metrics under VS3? Green is shown when at a 3 or 6 month threshold. The only other thing I can think of is a little crazy, but maybe when they updated the score model to eliminate medical debt under $500 (last year) they inadvertently changed something else?
Also, where can you get EX VS3 for free?
https://www.credit.com . It specifically says 'Experian VS3 every 14 days", which is exactly how I remember using it. They also started offering the full slate of 28 credit scores over a year ago.
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Cassie wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:57 pm https://www.credit.com . It specifically says 'Experian VS3 every 14 days", which is exactly how I remember using it.
Ah yes, I do recall now. The reason I stopped going there was because I was getting a "technical failure" error message any time I tried to log in. That's probably been going on for a year now, maybe longer. I did just reach out to customer support regarding it. It's got to be a common error though, as in their drop down list of contact reasons a "technical failure message" is an option. I never had a reason to "fix" the account until now, so I guess I'll wait to see what they can do. Does your gut say fluke/error of some sort regarding the 850?
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BrutalBodyShots wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:09 am Does your gut say fluke/error of some sort regarding the 850?
I was thinking it's either due to an aging threshold or something to do with them updating the score model last year to eliminate medical debt under $500. (You didn't have the medical debt, I know, but maybe they inadvertently changed something else?) Anything showing green under VS3 Aging Metrics in our AAoA calculator? (Regardless of whether we've confirmed a threshold, I set it to show Average ages in green when they're on a 6m boundary, and 3m for many of the Youngest ones.)
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BrutalBodyShots wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:09 am
Cassie wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:57 pm https://www.credit.com . It specifically says 'Experian VS3 every 14 days", which is exactly how I remember using it.
Ah yes, I do recall now. The reason I stopped going there was because I was getting a "technical failure" error message any time I tried to log in. That's probably been going on for a year now, maybe longer. I did just reach out to customer support regarding it. It's got to be a common error though, as in their drop down list of contact reasons a "technical failure message" is an option. I never had a reason to "fix" the account until now, so I guess I'll wait to see what they can do. Does your gut say fluke/error of some sort regarding the 850?
Don't you have Chase cards? They give ex vs3. Nav.com also gives ex vs3
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Beefy wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:41 am Don't you have Chase cards? They give ex vs3. Nav.com also gives ex vs3
Good call. I guess I always just assumed it was TU VS3 from Chase since that's the most common. I rarely ever click on Credit Journey. My EX VS3 matches my TU VS3 at 837, so EQ VS3 is still the anomaly at 850. Also @Cassie just a FYI regarding credit.com, I heard back from CS and they said it was due to a freeze on my reports / they can't access report data with a freeze in place. That's obviously BS, as all other lenders access my bureau data all the time with freezes in place and all provide me with current VS3s if offered. The only other source I've ever run into this with is Synchrony and their VS4, which can't be produced with frozen reports.
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Just a quick update here. My 850 is back to 838. It remained at 850 from 7/9 through 7/21. Between 7/21 and today 7/25 I had 2 reported balances update. One account balance increased by $95, the other decreased by $63. The net gain of $32 brought me to overall revolving debt dollars reported to $3251.

I guess I'll chalk the 850 up to a fluke, as those reported balances certainly had nothing to do with the score change.
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