So for funsies, I did a pre-qual on Carvana to see if my rates have improved along with my scores. Backstory : I did finance with Bridgecrest through Carvana last April when I bought my Suburban. At the time I had a 680-ish score and they gave me 8.5% at 60 mo. Not great, but not the worst, so I went for it. I have considered refi, but instead of another new account, I decided to just pay it down faster and break the difference in the cost of interest. The vehicle is a bit older with a bit more miles, so refi even at the best rate would still only be a couple points lower, if that, or if I can even refi. Result : So, my score has improved drastically, by 30pt and I spun the wheel.... WTF?! They are offering me rates of 12-16%+?! What crock is this? I know rates have gone up, but with a much improved score and with recent and positive auto loan history, unlike previously, they are hiking up the rates drastically on me? I am sorry, but at a 714 EX F8, I just cant see why I would be getting double digit interest rates on an auto loan. Am I wrong thinking this? Takeaway : I know I can't be alone, but this seems really silly. I enjoyed my buying experience with Carvana, the vehicle is excellent (took to dealership to have it combed over and my SO is a Master Automotive Tech), prices were competitive (like much lower than CarMaX), and the rate was not the absolute worst at the time where I was credit-wise, as it was my first sub-double digit interest rate. Many other factors made it a very positive buying experience, but this is not a Carvana review lol So, while I would buy from them again, I would go in with my own financing....
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So for funsies, I did a pre-qual on Carvana to see if my rates have improved along with my scores. Backstory: I did finance with Bridgecrest through Carvana last April when I bought my Suburban. At the time I had a 680-ish score and they gave me 8.5% at 60 mo. Not great, but not the worst, so I went for it. I have considered refi, but instead of another new account, I decided to just pay it down faster and break the difference in the cost of interest. The vehicle is a bit older with a bit more miles, so refi even at the best rate would still only be a couple points lower, if that, or if I can even refi. Result: So, my score has improved drastically, by 30pt and I spun the wheel.... WTF?! They are offering me rates of 12-16%+?! What crock is this? I know rates have gone up, but with a much improved score and with recent and positive auto loan history, unlike previously, they are hiking up the rates drastically on me? I am sorry, but at a 714 EX F8, I just cant see why I would be getting double digit interest rates on an auto loan. Am I wrong thinking this? Takeaway: I know I can't be alone, but this seems really silly. I enjoyed my buying experience with Carvana, the vehicle is excellent (took to dealership to have it combed over and my SO is a Master Automotive Tech), prices were competitive (like much lower than CarMaX), and the rate was not the absolute worst at the time where I was credit-wise, as it was my first sub-double digit interest rate. Many other factors made it a very positive buying experience, but this is not a Carvana review lol So, while I would buy from them again, I would go in with my own financing....
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Re: Carvana (Bridgecrest - DriveTime) - what a joke!

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I could never imagine having a car payment. I pay cash only for all cars and trucks I have ever bought. There is no reason to finance a depreciating asset. It guarantees I pay no interest. I encourage others to do the same. Last I checked, my FICO Auto 9 was 810. I probably would receive the best rates available on any auto loan, but never will ever try.
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@Credible , while I agree that is the optimal path, for many it is either not an option or they simply do not want to go that route. I am only sharing that with a Fico 8 score in the 700s, even in the low 700s, even credit profile aside, no one should be getting charged double digit interest rates, nonetheless double the rate they got financed at with lower, sub-700s scores, from the same lender....
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Re: Carvana (Bridgecrest - DriveTime) - what a joke!

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Re: Carvana (Bridgecrest - DriveTime) - what a joke!

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Credible wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:10 pm I could never imagine having a car payment. I pay cash only for all cars and trucks I have ever bought. There is no reason to finance a depreciating asset. It guarantees I pay no interest. I encourage others to do the same. Last I checked, my FICO Auto 9 was 810. I probably would receive the best rates available on any auto loan, but never will ever try.
You word this as if everyone has the option to pay for a $40,000 vehicle in cash. Not everyone does, or not everyone wants to. When I bought my wife a 2022 Telluride last fall, I put as much as they would allow me to put on my credit card for the rewards (paid in full), and the rest at 1.99%. I can invest the money and earn a higher rate of return than I am paying for the loan.
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ptatohed wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:06 pm
Credible wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:10 pm I could never imagine having a car payment. I pay cash only for all cars and trucks I have ever bought. There is no reason to finance a depreciating asset. It guarantees I pay no interest. I encourage others to do the same. Last I checked, my FICO Auto 9 was 810. I probably would receive the best rates available on any auto loan, but never will ever try.
You word this as if everyone has the option to pay for a $40,000 vehicle in cash. Not everyone does, or not everyone wants to. When I bought my wife a 2022 Telluride last fall, I put as much as they would allow me to put on my credit card for the rewards (paid in full), and the rest at 1.99%. I can invest the money and earn a higher rate of return than I am paying for the loan.
Exactly if you had good enough credit why would you? June last year I did a refi at 2.74% down from 3.84 why would you A) have 40 grand laying around? B) waste it on paying for a car instead of investing at a rate higher than the interest. Index funds have had about a 10% annual growth for the last 30 years, even with them down the last year or so that just makes them a buyers market. The notion a car is an asset and not a user consumable part is also wrong generally the value in a car is not the trade in, it is the economic and leisure activity it generated. IE having the vehicle If you didn't have good credit you likely also don't have a large pool of disposable income to drop on a car.
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