I got myself into a bit of a bind and trying to figure out which is the best of a bad situation. SO got an increase on his Dell CC and it puts his agg util right at 10%. Unfortunately to get under that threshold it will be a bit tricky. Dell already reported for the month so making another payment to them is out. The only options I see are: 1) Let Cap One report $0. This means AWB will be 1 of 3 (1 of 4 incl AU) instead of 2 of 3 / 2 of 4 (AU). And I may just get agg right under the rounding point and get 9% to report. This also means only a store card will have a balance reporting and there will be no bank cards with a balance. Will all of this just cancel each other out, score-wise? I have to let the AU report or get hit with the AU AZ penalty. 2) Let the chips fall where they may and just accept being at 10% agg util and wait til next month. So far, getting Dell from 48% > 28% ind util made zero scoring difference, so my only other option is getting agg util under 10%. There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up! Birdman Cassie BrutalBodyShots Allzero
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I got myself into a bit of a bind and trying to figure out which is the best of a bad situation. SO got an increase on his Dell CC and it puts his agg util right at 10%. Unfortunately to get under that threshold it will be a bit tricky. Dell already reported for the month so making another payment to them is out. The only options I see are: 1) Let Cap One report $0. This means AWB will be 1 of 3 (1 of 4 incl AU) instead of 2 of 3 / 2 of 4 (AU). And I may just get agg right under the rounding point and get 9% to report. This also means only a store card will have a balance reporting and there will be no bank cards with a balance. Will all of this just cancel each other out, score-wise? I have to let the AU report or get hit with the AU AZ penalty. 2) Let the chips fall where they may and just accept being at 10% agg util and wait til next month. So far, getting Dell from 48% > 28% ind util made zero scoring difference, so my only other option is getting agg util under 10%. There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up! @Birdman @Cassie @BrutalBodyShots @Allzero
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LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 pm I got myself into a bit of a bind and trying to figure out which is the best of a bad situation. SO got an increase on his Dell CC and it puts his agg util right at 10%. Unfortunately to get under that threshold it will be a bit tricky. Dell already reported for the month so making another payment to them is out. The only options I see are: 1) Let Cap One report $0. This means AWB will be 1 of 3 (1 of 4 incl AU) instead of 2 of 3 / 2 of 4 (AU). And I may just get agg right under the rounding point and get 9% to report. This also means only a store card will have a balance reporting and there will be no bank cards with a balance. Will all of this just cancel each other out, score-wise? I have to let the AU report or get hit with the AU AZ penalty. 2) Let the chips fall where they may and just accept being at 10% agg util and wait til next month. So far, getting Dell from 48% > 28% ind util made zero scoring difference, so my only other option is getting agg util under 10%. There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up! @Birdman @Cassie @BrutalBodyShots @Allzero
@LaHossBoss it’s only a store card reports you receive a partial AZ loss, however that should be less of a loss than the AU AZ loss. Remember you only have to get below 9.5%. Does SO have any other AUs? So option one would probably give a partial AZ loss for the store card being the only one with a Balance, but you should probably get some points for going under 10% aggregate. Also beware there is the possibility that primary and authorized user utilization metrics are independent of each other. We’re not positive of that yet.
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Birdman wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:15 pm
LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 pm I got myself into a bit of a bind and trying to figure out which is the best of a bad situation. SO got an increase on his Dell CC and it puts his agg util right at 10%. Unfortunately to get under that threshold it will be a bit tricky. Dell already reported for the month so making another payment to them is out. The only options I see are: 1) Let Cap One report $0. This means AWB will be 1 of 3 (1 of 4 incl AU) instead of 2 of 3 / 2 of 4 (AU). And I may just get agg right under the rounding point and get 9% to report. This also means only a store card will have a balance reporting and there will be no bank cards with a balance. Will all of this just cancel each other out, score-wise? I have to let the AU report or get hit with the AU AZ penalty. 2) Let the chips fall where they may and just accept being at 10% agg util and wait til next month. So far, getting Dell from 48% > 28% ind util made zero scoring difference, so my only other option is getting agg util under 10%. There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up! @Birdman @Cassie @BrutalBodyShots @Allzero
@LaHossBoss it’s only a store card reports you receive a partial AZ loss, however that should be less of a loss than the AU AZ loss. Remember you only have to get below 9.5%. Does SO have any other AUs? So option one would probably give a partial AZ loss for the store card being the only one with a Balance, but you should probably get some points for going under 10% aggregate. Also beware there is the possibility that primary and authorized user utilization metrics are independent of each other. We’re not positive of that yet.
Sorry, I should be more clear about my issue, SO is at 10% agg, but the bankcard only has a $8 bal and the AU only has a $10 bal. I will have to get the AU to $5 bucks and the bank card to $0 to get it right under 9.44% agg. The balances are so small. I just hope the AU doesn't report $0 or I will be screwed too haha
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I presume this application is for you and not SO?

Which card / lender are you going after?
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@Allzero actually maybe both of us. Going to FL, there will be lots of spending opportunities and I would hate to miss out on points or CB of some sort!
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@LaHossBoss I made a mistake and had to edit my response and your quote of it please reread it.
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LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 pm 1) Let Cap One report $0. This means AWB will be 1 of 3 (1 of 4 incl AU) And I may just get agg right under the rounding point and get 9% to report.
My guess is option 1 for FICO 8s. I don't know how your scores will react if not using a bank card. Option 2 doesn't seem that great since agg will be above 9.5%. Also, you may not want 2 of 3 (2 of 4 incl AU) AWB or you may be at or crossing AWB percentage threshold for EQ and TU for a potential score loss. EX doesn't seem to mind as much.
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Not sure what lenders specifically you have reported balances with currently, but are any of them known to do an off-cycle reporting? If so, take your balance down to what you'd like it to be (reported) and request that they report again.
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Yes very true. Partial AZ loss, from the store card is better than a full loss.
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BrutalBodyShots wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:31 am Not sure what lenders specifically you have reported balances with currently, but are any of them known to do an off-cycle reporting? If so, take your balance down to what you'd like it to be (reported) and request that they report again.
It's Dell (WebBank) and I am not entirely sure if they off cycle uodate, but it would require SO calling....so we can forget about that lol
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LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 pm There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up!
Are they going to pull EX8? If so, I'd probably go with getting the aggregate balance amount just below .095*(total credit limit). On my file, that number is $3,942.50 , which means I can actually let $3,942.99 report and still be under 10% for FICO scoring because cents don't count. EQ/TU8 have definitely been more sensitive to AWB on my clean file, but that might not be the case for you.
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LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:02 pm There is an app on the horizon, so trying to pretty things up!
Are they going to pull EX8? If so, I'd probably go with getting the aggregate balance amount just below .095*(total credit limit). On my file, that number is $3,942.50 , which means I can actually let $3,942.99 report and still be under 10% for FICO scoring because cents don't count. EQ/TU8 have definitely been more sensitive to AWB on my clean file, but that might not be the case for you.
$1548.88 is 9.4% (rounding down to 9%) Current balance between the 3 accounts is $1582 9.6% (rounded). Dell is reporting at $1545 Lol looking at this closer...not sure this is gonna work out 😆 I would basically have to let the AU Cap One report at $3.88 and I just don't see that happening...I just cant risk both of us getting dinged hard.
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Cassie wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:27 am EQ/TU8 have definitely been more sensitive to AWB on my clean file, but that might not be the case for you.
I can second that statement. EX8 is bulletproof to AWB from the testing I've done on my file. I literally can't budge it a single Fico point from AWB changes all the way from AZEO to 100% of AWB.
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Three dollars on the capital one will make it an even 48 which is under 9.5.
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LaHossBoss wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:52 am $1548.88 is 9.4% (rounding down to 9%) Current balance between the 3 accounts is $1582 9.6% (rounded). Dell is reporting at $1545 Lol looking at this closer...not sure this is gonna work out 😆 I would basically have to let the AU Cap One report at $3.88 and I just don't see that happening...I just cant risk both of us getting dinged hard.
If the AU Cap One has $3.88 on it, that's going to report at $3, assuming they report an amount that low. Every individual account has to be truncated before adding them all up. If you just truncate the total - including the cents on each individual account - the real reported amount could be lower by as much as (number_of_accounts * .99). What is (.095 * your total credit limit across all cards)? I'm just wondering if you could let $5 report on the Au Cap One and still be at 9% for FICO scoring.
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I had a Capital One card report $3 ($3.40 actual) on all 3B.

ETA. This was back in June/July of this year.
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