I was a little surprised to see that my F8s for EX and TU did not go down after adding a new auto loan. TU F8 717 > 717 EX F8 718 >718 AAoA went down, but not terribly. EX 10y 2m > who knows per MF (10y 7m > 9y 6m per EX) TU 9y 6m > I need to do the math lol per MF I am just going to assume that because I am still on a PR/dirty scorecard, I do not get the "new account penalty", if I remember correctly ( Birdman7 ). Some other scores went either up or down a tad, I am guessing maybe because I now have an auto loan (auto scores). For the ones that went down, I am wondering if it was because AAoA went back under 10y? Or do other scores penalize for a new account regardless of being in a dirty scorecard? Or I guess it could just be from the increase in number of accounts w/ balance. EX2 681 > 681 (0) EX A8 717 > 730 (+13pt) EX A2 697 > 696 (-1pt) EX BC8 726 > 725 (-1pt) EX BC3 702 > 695 (-7pt) EX BC2 696 > 696 (0) Funny enough, EX is still giving me "no auto loan activity" for a negative reason code with the new auto loan reporting. Screenshot_20210608-210226_Experian.jpg Screenshot_20210608-210226_Experian.jpg
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I was a little surprised to see that my F8s for EX and TU did not go down after adding a new auto loan. TU F8 717 > 717 EX F8 718 >718 AAoA went down, but not terribly. EX 10y 2m > who knows per MF (10y 7m > 9y 6m per EX) TU 9y 6m > I need to do the math lol per MF I am just going to assume that because I am still on a PR/dirty scorecard, I do not get the "new account penalty", if I remember correctly (@Birdman7). Some other scores went either up or down a tad, I am guessing maybe because I now have an auto loan (auto scores). For the ones that went down, I am wondering if it was because AAoA went back under 10y? Or do other scores penalize for a new account regardless of being in a dirty scorecard? Or I guess it could just be from the increase in number of accounts w/ balance. EX2 681 > 681 (0) EX A8 717 > 730 (+13pt) EX A2 697 > 696 (-1pt) EX BC8 726 > 725 (-1pt) EX BC3 702 > 695 (-7pt) EX BC2 696 > 696 (0) Funny enough, EX is still giving me "no auto loan activity" for a negative reason code with the new auto loan reporting. Image
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Re: New Auto Loan reported to EX and TU - no F8 score change?

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LaHossBoss wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:53 pm I was a little surprised to see that my F8s for EX and TU did not go down after adding a new auto loan. TU F8 717 > 717 EX F8 718 >718 AAoA went down, but not terribly. EX 10y 2m > who knows per MF (10y 7m > 9y 6m per EX) TU 9y 6m > I need to do the math lol per MF I am just going to assume that because I am still on a PR/dirty scorecard, I do not get the "new account penalty", if I remember correctly (@Birdman7). Some other scores went either up or down a tad, I am guessing maybe because I now have an auto loan (auto scores). For the ones that went down, I am wondering if it was because AAoA went back under 10y? Or do other scores penalize for a new account regardless of being in a dirty scorecard? Or I guess it could just be from the increase in number of accounts w/ balance. EX2 681 > 681 (0) EX A8 717 > 730 (+13pt) EX A2 697 > 696 (-1pt) EX BC8 726 > 725 (-1pt) EX BC3 702 > 695 (-7pt) EX BC2 696 > 696 (0) Funny enough, EX is still giving me "no auto loan activity" for a negative reason code with the new auto loan reporting. ImageScreenshot_20210608-210226_Experian.jpg
@LaHossBoss that’s correct no new account or new revolver penalty in a dirty card. The increase you saw on auto was probably due to the amount owed category for having an open loan. The decrease on three was probably due to increased overall credit account balances? Maybe aging? Or # AWB? No way to be 100% positive which one and could be conflated. Now that’s some bull crap about EX showing you do not have an auto loan as a reason code!! you need to call their customer service and get that straight!!
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Re: New Auto Loan reported to EX and TU - no F8 score change?

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@Birdman7 so, then when I transfer to a clean scorecard in a couple months, will I get the new account penalty at that time? Since the account will still be less than 6 months old (probably less than 3 months old)? I was hoping to go clean with no new accounts 18+ months to see what my best scores would be before adding new TLs, but I got the new-to-me vehicle and foiled that plan. I am going to assume with the new account only a couple months old and an additional AWB, my scores will be a lot less than what I had hoped for or would have gotten anyway, had I not gotten the loan yet?
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Re: New Auto Loan reported to EX and TU - no F8 score change?

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LaHossBoss wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:13 am @Birdman7 so, then when I transfer to a clean scorecard in a couple months, will I get the new account penalty at that time? Since the account will still be less than 6 months old (probably less than 3 months old)? I was hoping to go clean with no new accounts 18+ months to see what my best scores would be before adding new TLs, but I got the new-to-me vehicle and foiled that plan. I am going to assume with the new account only a couple months old and an additional AWB, my scores will be a lot less than what I had hoped for or would have gotten anyway, had I not gotten the loan yet?
@LaHossBoss loans will only cause new account reassignment on the mortgage scores. Since it’s not a revolver, it does not cause new revolver reassignment on 8/9. So as long as you don’t have a revolver under 12 months of age, you’ll be in a no new revolver card on 8/9, but looks like you’ll be in a new account scorecard on the mortgage scores.
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@Birdman7 thank you so much for the clarification! I always get fuzzy on the new accounts situation, especially for non-revolvers. That meams there's still hope for decent F8/F9 scores once I go clean. But darn, I had AOD in my sights as one of my first app spree's choices. I guess we will just see how my EQ5 fairs when the time comes in Jan!
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LaHossBoss wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:20 pm @Birdman7 thank you so much for the clarification! I always get fuzzy on the new accounts situation, especially for non-revolvers. That meams there's still hope for decent F8/F9 scores once I go clean. But darn, I had AOD in my sights as one of my first app spree's choices. I guess we will just see how my EQ5 fairs when the time comes in Jan!
@LaHossBoss I hate to be the purveyor of bad news but I’d rather tell you the truth! Let’s hope it’s good by then!
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With the addition of the new loan, what was the change to aggregate installment loan utilization?
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@BrutalBodyShots none. I was over 100% aggregate and all individual util due to the SLs. So still >100% util.
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Gotcha. Interesting!
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