Experian FICO 8: -19 points going from 21% to 31%. Total balance from $9,990 to $15,761. (I have $4,000 across 2 PCLIs reporting for the first time this month. TCL $47,000 last month to $51,000 this month.) Amount of Debt rating changed from Very Good to Good. Also shows a red line for util at Experian's CMS. This is a temporary hit. My AMEX BCE closes last - today - and will report $0, down from $3,363. Open Accounts with Balances will change from 3 of 4 to 2 of 4. Now to see how much comes back going from 31% to 24% along with crossing a theoretical $10,000 line on balances. (My theory.) There's a lot more there to sort out as EX2 took a major hit with that. (Massive hit on VS3 here: https://www.creditrebels.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17179#p17179 ) crossing-30pct-temp-nov_2022.png
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EX8 Data Point: Crossing the 30% threshold

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Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:59 pm
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Cassie
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes Next Level in6 days, 3 hours, and 15 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago
Experian FICO 8: -19 points going from 21% to 31%. Total balance from $9,990 to $15,761. (I have $4,000 across 2 PCLIs reporting for the first time this month. TCL $47,000 last month to $51,000 this month.) Amount of Debt rating changed from Very Good to Good. Also shows a red line for util at Experian's CMS. This is a temporary hit. My AMEX BCE closes last - today - and will report $0, down from $3,363. Open Accounts with Balances will change from 3 of 4 to 2 of 4. Now to see how much comes back going from 31% to 24% along with crossing a theoretical $10,000 line on balances. (My theory.) There's a lot more there to sort out as EX2 took a major hit with that. (Massive hit on VS3 here: viewtopic.php?p=17179#p17179 )
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Re: EX8 Data Point: Crossing the 30% threshold

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Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:06 pm
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Level27 Last INQMonday, May 23, 2022 Gardening For2 years, 3 months, 15 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes Next Level in15 days, 3 hours, and 15 minutes on September 23rd INQ 1yr onTuesday, May 23, 2023 INQ 1yr reached1 year, 3 months, 15 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago INQ 2yr onThursday, May 23, 2024 INQ 2yr reached3 months, 15 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago Goal24 months Goal DateThursday, May 23, 2024 Goal Achieved3 months, 15 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago
Was there an AWB increase with the utilization increase, or will there only be an AWB decrease with the utilization decrease that's about to happen?
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Re: EX8 Data Point: Crossing the 30% threshold

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Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:09 am
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Cassie
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Cassie has been gardening for over 2 years.
Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes Next Level in6 days, 3 hours, and 15 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago
BrutalBodyShots wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:06 pm Was there an AWB increase with the utilization increase, or will there only be an AWB decrease with the utilization decrease that's about to happen?
Only a decrease. I've been at 3 of 4 reporting a balance for several months now. I typically use my Mastercard for around $400-$500 and pay it to $0 a few days before closing. It's quite a hit on EQ8/TU8 and all 3 mortgage scores at 4of4 reporting a balance.
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Re: EX8 Data Point: Crossing the 30% threshold

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Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 am
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes Next Level in6 days, 3 hours, and 15 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago
Massive hit on VS3: viewtopic.php?p=17179#p17179
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Re: EX8 Data Point: Crossing the 30% threshold

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Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:31 pm
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Cassie
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Level54 Last INQFriday, February 14, 2020 Gardening For4 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes Next Level in6 days, 3 hours, and 15 minutes on September 14th INQ 1yr onSunday, February 14, 2021 INQ 1yr reached3 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago INQ 2yr onMonday, February 14, 2022 INQ 2yr reached2 years, 6 months, 24 days, 20 hours, and 45 minutes ago
My AMEX reported at $0, bringing util back down to 24% from 31%. I only got 12 points back.
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My Discover card is now reporting 63% utilization (of $13,000). This is a big change from the previous report of 20%. Total dollar balance changed from a little over $15,000 to a little over $12,000. AWB changed from 3of4 to 2of4. I think that high individual utilization percentage on Discover might be the sole factor for the missing 7 points. Unless there's also a $10,000 dollar balance threshold? (Sort of doubt it now, but need to test it.) I'm going to try having Discover report at $6,370/49% next month. I can do that by putting all spend on it through November - utilities (generator tune-up is $300, Comcast $260, just 2 of a bunch), yearly subscription renewals ( I have a lot of these, and some are $300-$500), gifts for Christmas, really need want some Ferragamo flats so major damage at this place, and...probably more. If all 7 points come back, we'll know those missing 7 are all due to a -14% change from 63 to 49. Could be just the 50% line, or maybe some from crossing below 60 and some from going below 50?? Keep in mind my entire credit file turns 5 years 0 months old next month on December 1st. I've been consistently seeing score changes at each 5% utilization level on this young file, which doesn't seem to happen to much older files. There could be a 60, 55, and 50% threshold I'm crossing from 63 to 49. (Sort of doubt there's 3 - too many for a mere -7 points, I think.)
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